A seder for the birds

[magid]

• 20:12 kiddush, and the seder's begun with glass #1 #
  
• 20:13 handwashing w/o blessing, veg in saltwater, break middle matza to make the afikoman #
  
• 20:18 4 Qs: why only matza? why bitter herbs? why dip 2x? why slouch? #
  
• 20:19 how's a kid supposed to know these differences when half the stuff hasn't happened yet? #
  
• 20:21 no answers, but a story about rabbis in bnei brak #
  
• 20:24 4 sons: wise, evil, simple, mute; usual debate over how the wise and evils sons are different #
  
• 20:32 overview: abraham to jacob; still no answers #
  
• 20:33 phrase by phrase exegesis deuteronomy 26:5-8; some odd bits in here. many patriarchs, no moses. #
  
• 20:56 10 plagues: blood, frog, vermin, flies, murrain, boils, hail, locusts, darkness, death of firstborn; finger puppets! #
  
• 20:57 3 acronyms that don't form words #
  
• 20:58 plague multiplication, and the band of emissaries of evillll! #
  
• 21:03 if we had said the haggadah, but skipped the one verse that really doesn't scan, dayenu #
  
• 21:09 3 explanations: pesach offering, matza, maror #
  
• 20:12 view self as coming through exodus: start singing hallel! but only 1st 2 psalms about egypt exodus #
  
• 20:13 why isn't the song of the red sea put in here? #
  
• 20:18 2nd cup #
  
• 20:12 handwashing w/blessing, motzi on matza #
  
• 20:17 bitter herbs w/ charoset; matza sandwich with bitter herbs and charoset: crumbliest sandwich evar #
  
• 20:19 dinner! #
  
• 22:03 more matza for dessert #
  
• 22:08 grace after meals #
  
• 22:14 3rd cup #
  
• 22:18 open door for elijah and controversial wrath pouring out paragraph #
  
• 22:29 2nd long half of hallel, about future redemption, plus stuff from morning davening; no clue why that last is included #
  
• 22:35 4th cup #
  
• 22:38 end of seder #
  
• 22:45 sing songs, including counting to 13 and the travails of a baby goat #

Comments

[cellio]

if we had said the haggadah, but skipped the one verse that really doesn't scan, dayenu

*laugh* I have trouble making several of them scan, actually.

why isn't the song of the red sea put in here?

Something I've wondered about too, but never found an answer.

[magid.livejournal.com]

There are a couple that aren't great, but there's one verse that's really egregious.
(And with so many of them, I can't imagine how it really would have been enough. This year's particular peeve: Mt. Sinai. Without the subsequent giving of the Torah, it's just another mountain on the 40 year tour...)

It hadn't really popped so clearly for me about the song of the sea until this year. It's in every morning service, so it's not obscure or anything. The only thing that comes to mind is that the intro to that is about Moses and the people of Israel singing, and the haggadah is big on avoiding Moses. Or perhaps it's about focusing on the more positive side, rather than the Egyptians drowning?

[cellio]

This year's particular peeve: Mt. Sinai.

I rationalize that one by imagining that we could have had an encounter with God there even if it didn't involve the torah.

Shirat ha-yam: I wondered about the Moshe thing too, but it would be so trivial to leave off the introductory clause that I don't think that's it. We could sing the song without singing about the song.

[magid.livejournal.com]

Oh, I like that rationalization. Much better than "And here's Mt. X on your right, and Mt. Y on your left, and Mt. Sinai up ahead..."