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Tea at three today was milk and cookies, and a presentation by one of the editors who's also a cruciverbalist. I hadn't known that he was the first to make a puzzle with eight 15-letter entries, nor that he's in the top 25 crossword solvers in the country (as determined at timed competition in CT), though I did know he's had puzzles in the NYTimes.

In the States, there are a lot of crossword conventions that were put in place by Margaret Farrar: that grids need to have 180 degree rotational symmetry, be square, and have an odd number of squares to a side. Also that there should be themes. There were a lot of examples of themes, impressive for the levels within levels, such as the one where all the theme clues were LL alliteration, which was clued both by all the clues starting with L, and all the black shapes on the grid being Ls as well. Or the one about the stages of going to bed, where the middle black shapes were Zs. Or the one (not published) where the three theme words are people who were beheaded in the French revolution, each with the first letter missing from the beginning of their name (but the first letter of the word above it): they'd been beheaded here too.

So, the strategy for making a crossword is to come up with a theme and words that fit it (pairwise the same length, since the convention is to have the theme words placed in the grid symmetrically), then to make a grid that fits the words (and whatever shapes are wanted, if that's a part of it, rather than just what happens to work), fill in the rest of the words (starting with the longer words first), then write the clues. He uses shareware called Cruciverbalist which automatically fills in the symmetrical block when making the grid, shows how many words of different lengths are used, and which words will fit the grid with the letters already in place. Very neat.

Grids must have 180 degree rotational symmetry (in the US), and some have 90 degree rotational symmetry. Some also have mirror symmetry, along the vertical and horizontal middle. We got to see one grid that had all of these, and diagonal symmetry as well, all the symmetries of a square. Things that are not allowed (in the US): one-letter words, two-letter words, and squares that have only one clue. Elegant puzzles also have a minimum of three-letter words. Also, for weekday 15 by 15 puzzles, there can be up to 78 words in a puzzle; there isn't space enough for clues for more.

Once the words are in place, then come the clues. There are conventions, that clues have/are the same part of speech as the word, that they're short, that answers that are abbreviations either have abbreviations in the clue or (abbr.). Also, difficult words should have easy clues, or be crossed by easy clues. There shouldn't be too many tricky clues in a puzzle, either.

Even with the software, it takes this person about 10 hours to make a puzzle. Submitting a puzzle means sending the editor the clues with each word, a blank grid, and the filled grid. If it's accepted, anywhere from a quarter to three quarters of the clues will be changed (to match the needed difficulty level, for instance). If accepted, the pay for a daily puzzle is $70 (Sunday puzzles are $250-$300, while the NYTimes pays around $700 for a Sunday puzzle).

Fascinating stuff; definitely the best tea I've been to in a long time.

Oh, and there's a movie showing at Sundance this weekend on puzzlemaster Will Shortz, currently the NYTimes crossword editor and puzzlemaster on NPR's Sunday Edition, though I still think of him first as the editor for Games magazine. I hope I get to see Wordplay someday.

Date: 2006-01-19 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaq.livejournal.com
I find it interesting that American crosswords are so different from the British tradition.

Date: 2006-01-20 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
I think cryptics are a lot more prevalent over there (none of this addressed cryptic crosswords, btw). The speaker also mentioned that you can have spaces that have only one clue to it. What else is different?

Date: 2006-01-20 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaq.livejournal.com
My impression is that they have much more words squished up together in solid blocks, whereas ones here have spaces. But I think that's just another interpretation of what you said about each square needing more than one clue.

And yes the cryptic crossword is king, others tend to be called "quick crossword" or something similar.

Date: 2006-01-20 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
Cryptics are mostly beyond me. I mean, I can follow explanations of clues when someone else does them, but I can't seem to do that myself. Someday...

Date: 2006-01-20 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaq.livejournal.com
I tried doing the Metro (http://www.metro.co.uk/) one for a while, and was starting to get into the right mindset, but then they stopped printing it in the paper. (Now I do the Sudoku instead)

Date: 2006-01-20 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
I'm totally hooked on Sudoku, but they're a completely different sort of puzzle, all logic, no knowledge/language, so they don't use the same bits of brain at all.

Date: 2006-01-20 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairdice.livejournal.com
I was at that "mostly beyond me" stage for a while, then finally had a Canadian office mate in grad school who grew up doing them. After a doing a dozen in a setting where you can casually ask for help without fear of interrupting anything -- er, um, except for all that important research that was happening in our office, ahem -- I got to the point where I can now usually muddle through.

On the other side of the coin, I've actually constructed two (http://people.brandeis.edu/~kleber/Papers/cross.pdf) puzzles (http://people.brandeis.edu/~kleber/Papers/weirdoes.pdf) myself. I could boast that they've been published, but they appeared in the Mathematical Intelligencer, for which I am an editor, so it's kind of cheating. (Intended for a math-y audience; the first one is probably impenetrable to anyone without a math background.)

Date: 2006-01-20 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
I think I don't have nearly enough math to do the first one, nor enough cryptic-ness to do the second, but I think I'll give copies to the cruciverbalist here and see what he makes of them.

Date: 2006-01-20 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fairdice.livejournal.com
I'm most partial to "variety cryptics" -- the ones where, in addition to the clues, there's some second layer of puzzle, often one whose rules you don't know at the outset, before you can enter answers into the grid. Both my puzzles are, I guess, variety non-cryptics: the clues are not British-style, but there is something funny going on, and I'm not telling you what.

I'm really pleased with the first one, so I kind of regret warning you away from it. The second is only so-so; it was printed partly in the hopes that other people will realize they don't need to have really clever ideas before they can submit puzzles to the MI.

Date: 2006-01-19 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queue.livejournal.com
Wordplay has been saved in my Netflix queue (it will be added once it's out on DVD).

Date: 2006-01-20 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
Cool! Thank you.

Date: 2006-01-19 10:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ckd
Hm, that sounds like the kind of movie that the Kendall Cinema would show.

Date: 2006-01-20 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
If it makes it into distribution...

Date: 2006-01-19 10:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cnoocy
I know a couple of people who are in the Sundance movie. I may well know your co-worker as well. It comes of being in the National Puzzlers' League.

Date: 2006-01-20 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
You may well know him. I should ask if he's in the League.

And something about typing that last word made me think: Red-Headed League? Moose Path League? before snapping back to the right one. Weird.

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