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Goodbye, Alistair Cooke. You will always be the voice of Masterpiece Theater for me.

Yesterday the MA legislature voted (barely) against gay marriage and for civil unions that will have the same rights as marriage. While I know that many people want gay marriage legal, it's something to consider how far the fallback position has come; now it's civil unions with all the rights of marriage. Which is a pretty amazing change in and of itself.
Tangentially related: this week's story Strange Horizons, The Grammarian's Five Daughters (Eleanor Arnason) (thanks to Queue for the pointer).

I hadn't realized that Congress passed a law that people who have been convicted on drug charges would not be eligible for student aid. Apparently the intent was for current students, but it wasn't written clearly, and schools have been conservative, and applying it to students with prior records. In either case, I don't understand why drug convictions are so horrible that they were singled out for this law. Isn't any felony a horrible-enough thing that committing one would lose you financial aid? And is being busted for owning a bag of pot so vile that the government should withdraw any financial help? It doesn't make sense to me.

Date: 2004-03-30 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
Well, it's not like Amherst every bothered to bust anyone for drugs, so that financial aid is intact.

Date: 2004-03-30 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
*grin*

It's also people who got a record before college, and are now trying to change paths... which is considerably harder without funding. NPR had a story about a girl who'd ended up earning a GED while without family and homeless. She's made it into a decent school, but since she has a prior drug conviction, she can't currently get loans, which would mean not going to school.
Theoretically, aren't the Republicans in favor of people pulling themselves up by their bootstraps? All that's on offer here is loans, after all.

Date: 2004-03-30 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queue.livejournal.com
But it's helping us fight the War On Drugs! I think we've got it just about won. Go us!

Date: 2004-03-30 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
So we can focus on the War on Terror, now?

Date: 2004-03-30 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
But whatever happened to the War on Poverty?

Date: 2004-03-30 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queue.livejournal.com
Didn't you hear? We won!!!

Great news!

Date: 2004-03-30 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkfish.livejournal.com
Next time I see a poor person, I will tell them to report to the nearest POW camp.

Re: Great news!

Date: 2004-03-30 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
We're supposed to call them Salvation Army Homeless Shelters now.

Date: 2004-03-30 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
Oh, I understood the political ramifications perfectly, I was just grumbling about the 1600-SAT scorers at Amherst who still couldn't figure out how to smoke pot w/o setting off the smoke detectors several times a week, even by junior year.

Morons. I never touched the stuff, and even I knew enough to not trip the smoke detectors.

war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
it ran out of money.

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
*rotfl* You win.

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
Wow! Someone won!

Now what war was I fighting again?

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queue.livejournal.com
The War on Carbs?

Date: 2004-03-30 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
Test-taking ability doesn't always correlate to intelligence.
(However one defines that outside the test-taking context.)

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
The War on Drugs used by Terrorists to fight Poverty. Or maybe the War on Terror caused by Poverty-striken Druggists. Sadly, not the War on Stupidity.

Re: war on stupidity

Date: 2004-03-30 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
Definite lack of vision on the politician's part... or is that an inability to start a war on oneself?

Date: 2004-03-30 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spwebdesign.livejournal.com
Are you sure? I seem to remember 2-3 people getting ousted for drugs.

Re: war on stupidity

Date: 2004-03-30 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
Ha!

But now that I think about it, maybe the No Child Left Behind thingy was supposed to be a War on Stupidity . . . but now that I think about _that_, I seem to recall They've totally fucked up that one, too. Oh well.

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spwebdesign.livejournal.com
Not during this administration.

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hrafn.livejournal.com
But aren't they waging a War on the Poor? Isn't that the same thing? I mean, no poor people means no poverty, right?

Re: war on stupidity

Date: 2004-03-30 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magid.livejournal.com
Love those unfunded mandates.

There are a number of places that have already opted out of NCLB; they couldn't get the numbers to work so all students would actually get a good education, rather than having to pay a lot to get a few kids up to par, and the rest given less because there wasn't enough funding for anything more.

The basic idea is a nice one, but when it comes down to nuts and bolts, as written, it's not a good law.

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spwebdesign.livejournal.com
I was referring to the War on Stupidity. I didn't realize the subject heading had reverted back to "Poverty." Although, I suppose one can make the case that those who are stupid are mentally impoverished.

Date: 2004-03-30 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
nah, that was d*** the psychopath who claims that dean lieber was out to get him, and used drugs as the excuse. he'd already graduated by that point.

Re: war on stupidity

Date: 2004-03-30 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
It was written by nuts, basically.

Re: war on stupidity

Date: 2004-03-30 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
er, nuts who bolted, i meant to say.

Re: war on stupidity

Date: 2004-03-30 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] arfur
you mean, the Stupidity on Children?

Date: 2004-03-30 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spwebdesign.livejournal.com
What about Matt what's-his-face? And the other guy? And there might have been another. Of course, these might have happened while I was working for Campus Police after we graduated. I don't remember.

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitty.livejournal.com
The Administration is busy waging war on everyone else; why not on itself next?

Re: war on poverty

Date: 2004-03-30 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spwebdesign.livejournal.com
Good point. And they just might be stupid enough to do it!

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